A whopping 1,134,427 voter registrations have been cancelled in Indiana, primarily in black and liberal districts.

yes right where the 10% of disenfranchised live. How coincidental.

With all the dead still on the rolls this is not surprising.

Every state that Clinton has won has had voting irregularities.

Tack this one on the list - and tack one more up for people who don't give a hoot about citizens being given their Constitutional right to vote.

Tack this one on the list - and tack one more up for people who don't give a hoot about citizens being given their Constitutional right to vote.

We haven't gotten to voting for the Representatives or Senators yet. You think this is some ploy to deny people the right to vote for them?

Hope this is just gossip and not really true

Pardon? Hillary Clinton's campaign is unorganized, that's why she loses caucuses... it has nothing to do with Obama stealing them. I think you owe him and his campaign an apology for saying he has stolen any contest in this process.

I guess you never saw the chaos that happened when Chelsea Clinton attempted to take over and run a caucus location in Nevada in clear contravention of DNC rules, state rules, and state election law.

Heavily around Gary, in Lake and Porter Counties. Fully a quarter of the canceled or changed (not purged) voters are in those two counties.

I live in the Richmond you speak of. I can say that at a recent Bill Clinton event here, half the 1000 people they let in were Obama supporters.

If Richmond is HC country, I wouldn't worry about HC winning. But I guess you never know.

Oops. My bad. I forgot that Earlham is there - that would change the voting matrix. Remind me to correct my source the next time I talk to him....

No worries

neo, let me tell you about the matrix.

As I said in #5, when your information gets updated, they cancel your old info and make a whole new record. That what it means. But 115% of Porter County did not change voter information.

OK didn't see that ... thanks.

I smell a fat stinking rat.

As I said in #5, when your information gets updated, they cancel your old info and make a whole new record. That what it means. But 115% of Porter County did not change voter information.

Lets examine that statement above. If there is 115% of a county registered to vote period, does that not imply a huge amount of fraud? Since the entire state voting apparatus is controlled by democrats does that no imply massive incompetence?

Just thinking.....

I think it's more like 115% of the registered voters were changed/canceled, but that doesn't make it any less of a shenanigan-wad.

Election rules creatively interpreted by state officials not legitimately elected by the citizens. These people aren't stupid: they're thoroughly corrupt.

The states are run by people who want to stay in power and have political agendas. Idiots? I think not. Shrewd, cunning, etc. but I do know what you are saying

angela:
I'm glad you caught the drift. I had to use "idiots" as a substitute for a number of four letter words I would have preferred to use on them and a particular 12-letter word. ;-)

The caucus process is out of date. I think they could be an ineffective, invalid, unreliable, and inadequate way to vote. It seems that any candidate could use these weakness to their advantage.

#14 links to:

The address is not valid

then you have a problem with your browser

from that article:

My observations in Texas were that caucuses were broadly illegitimate. In a few well-run counties, Hillary's caucus vote was the same or better than the popular vote, but in chaotic counties, she fell behind by double digits. While Texas is the only state to have both a binding popular vote and a caucus vote, we saw similar results in Washington State, where Obama's numbers plunged in the unofficial primary compared to the caucuses .

This stands out: only four major Texas counties were orderly enough to report most of their caucus results election night, and in three of these, caucus preference mirrored the popular vote (HRC popular/caucus): El Paso (69/75), Austin/Travis (37/34), San Antonio/Bexar (56/57). In the case of Austin, I have read reports that that both sides ran their caucuses well.

These counties had exceptional organizations, but it should not take heroics to run a fair election.

On election night in El Paso, it became obvious that the Obama field campaign was designed to steal caucuses. Prior to that, it was impossible for me to imagine the level of attempted fraud and disruption we would see. It was far worse than any GOP campaign I have organized against on the Central Coast, worse than Tom Bordonaro's, worse than Andrea Seastrand's, worse than the Dole campaign whose supporters vandalized our headquarters.

We saw stolen precincts where Obama organizers fabricated counts, made false entries on sign-in sheets, suppressed delegate counts, and suppressed caucus voters. We saw patterns such as missing electronic access code sheets and precinct packets taken before the legal time, like elsewhere in the state. Obama volunteers illegally took convention materials state-wide, with attempts as early as 6:30 am. Some of this was presented in a press release from Clinton Campaign Counsel Lyn Utrecht, but I witnessed worse than what she disclosed.

In one example of fraud that I witnessed, one of my precinct captains, an elderly Hispanic woman, called me to report that BHO supporters had illegally seized control of the convention. During our series of phone calls, Mrs. "A." reported that the Obama people took the convention materials and did not have a legal election of officers. Like nearly all of El Paso, BHO people would have lost such an election in this majority-Hillary, Hispanic, mostly elderly precinct convention.

The Obama people ordered Mrs. A. to sit across the room during the delegate calculation, and excluded Hillary supporters from the process. Mrs. A. overheard an Obama supporter call in a false delegate count to Austin. In a 13 delegate precinct where Obama should have won approximately 4 delegates, the Obama supporters attempted to award 19 delegates to Obama. This was not innocent. During my attempts at cell phone diplomacy, the Obama "chair" hung up on me, and refused to talk to the ethical Obama organizer I was paired with at another precinct convention. As with all major attempts at fraud that we identified, this delegate count was rectified in private at the county TDP headquarters, according to TDP rules, but there were no public charges or sanctions. It is my opinion that people should be in jail, but there is not a mechanism for this sort of prosecution, certainly not within TDP rules.

Although I have only volunteered in one state, virtually every Clinton staffer I have talked to has similar stories from other caucus states. While the Hillary field campaign operates and feels very much like typical Democratic campaigns, the Obama campaign is something new to Democratic politics. From my perspective, it looks like it has copied the worst attributes of Republican campaigns, but with unprecedented zeal.

Ironically, only in very well-organized areas like El Paso were we able to even identify the scale of the attempted irregularities. In these areas, we were also able to rebuff most attempts at fraud, correct fraudulent delegate counts, and protect our voters. In less well-organized areas, we did not have enough eyes and ears to identify or stop fraud, and our numbers plunged.

Although affidavits have not been made public, I have copies and records of the voter complaints for which I did interviews. Although the Hillary campaign has not gone public with evidence of fraud, the national legal team has approximately 200 such affidavits and 2000 voter complaints. The campaign intends to win the popular vote without airing these charges in public, but I suspect the campaign will provide authorities with this evidence upon request.

then you have a problem with your browser

BTW, I have the same problem with my browser. I can't read the page either.

Firefox works fine.

The link is incorrect. it is:

http:////www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/2/22818/72392

and should be:

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/2/22818/72392

Thank you eric.

I'm on a different computer (here at work) still browsing with Explorer & the link was no good. From the text you pasted I located the Texasdarlin blog with the complaint.

Are there any other accounts that support this woman's accusations of criminal fraud? One person's experience is not all that damning in my mind.

eriq:
So you want us to trust a single blogger making these accusations? I am a strong proponent of citizen journalism but asking me to believe a single person over an entire campaign particularly when the opponent isn't making bones about it? I'm sorry, but that's too muvh unsourced material. Furthermore, this "Mrs. A" should have went on the record if she wanted to be taken seriously as there is no way to verify she exists much less confirm her story fits the way this blogger tells it. Does this blogger even provide their real name? Accusations like this should attach their real name at the least and produce contact information more frequently. Unconfirmed reports are the same as rumors and lies and, as Winston Churchill said, the truth has one leg in its pants while a lie has traveled 'round the world already."

Scott - in your typical inaccuracy you failed to notice that all I did was bring part of the article here since people were having trouble with the link.

This is not the only blogger reporting this "mischief"/ Ann Althouse has reported similar from her sons in Texas

Gee, I am very sorry that reality does not support your "side" in this; while you can charge some of that off to inexperience and enthusiasm, it's also called vote stealing. This is what caucuses are about, did you miss the stories here on newsvine about Washington state, etc. These stories are all over the net, denying them doesn't work, admitting them, working to fix the situation does.

You haven't come close to proving reality.

Ho-ohhhhh! (bdum, CSHH!)

Safari works.

Yea but this is aerobic exercise for conspiracy minded dems! It's better than coffee! (and fewer calories)

Yeah, I've been seeing a lot of this on the vine lately. The Obama supporters are digging up whatever they can against Hillary Clinton, even if it's blatantly false.

Yeah, I've been seeing a lot of this on the vine lately. The Obama supporters are digging up whatever they can against Hillary Clinton, even if it's blatantly false.

If Obama somehow loses the nomination they will be able to look back and say, "See, I told you there was something fishy going on."

The Obama supporters are digging up whatever they can against Hillary Clinton, even if it's blatantly false.

To be fair, it's not Hillary Clinton that has to deal with being called Osama, being called Muslim (as if that were a terrible thing), or has to put up with trivialities like flag pins. There's a lot of crap out there, and it's not necessarily coming from either Obama or Clinton supporters.

o be fair, it's not Hillary Clinton that has to deal with being called Osama

We just call her Hitlery

There's a lot of trivial bull@!$%# associated with this election.

There's a lot of trivial bull@!$%# associated with democracy.

True, but that isn't stopping the conspiracy theorists.

Conspiracies are best ignored once refuted. Makes life a lot easier.

There are a lot of people who hear/think up a conspiracy idea and say, "That could work! How terrible."

I wonder how many instead think, "I think I could pull that off! Sweet!" The American people do not trust their elected officials for good reason.

Well, Bev has done a lot to sound the alarm about the insecurity of electronic voting, but Bev is somewhat of a tragic character in that *everything* she encounters, be it slightly off the path, is assumed to be fraudulent. I can't cite any specifics from memory and google is returning reams of unrelated hits so sorry if this is kind of a copout ... but when have any of Bev's claims resulted in actual substantiated evidence of fraud?

It's a fine line to be sure, especially when validation is supposed to be coming from the institutions complicit in said fraud. Is there silence because no one is around to hear the tree fall, or did the tree really not fall at all?

but when have any of Bev's claims resulted in actual substantiated evidence of fraud?

Fair enough response. But I have seen videos, especially the recount ones she did in Vermont, that show ridiculous illegal procedures being carried out. She also documented the hilarious tape they used to seal the boxes. The stuff was less tenacious than painter's tape.

So I guess it comes down to when she stopped the investigation. She has certainly shown improprieties. But maybe you're right. She hasn't gone to court and gotten these folks convicted of fraud, although Hacking Democracy should stand for something.

After the reception she got in ohio last go around, I am astounded that she still tries at all.

After the reception she got in ohio last go around, I am astounded that she still tries at all.

One could argue Ohio is a poster child for vote fraud, but there are so many "kids" out there.

Yes, those disenfranchised dead people!

Yes, those dead people do tend to gum up those voting machines!!!

There has never been a case of voter fraud in Indiana concerning someone who voted who was dead. Even the Supreme Court admitted as much when it still ruled in favor of Indiana's head tax (a law which was pushed through the Indiana Legislature when the Republicans controlled it, btw).

Bull@!$%#.

Dano this is another time that I am in absolute agreement with you.

:)

I have one so I can leave the country any time. Can you?

If the government wants to stop charging $$$ for the Uber-Id I would be all for it. Not everyone can afford the cost.

You can always use your gas tax holiday savings ..... HAHAHAHA

Yeah, if actually got one. On that topic, what about poor people without any cars? How is a gas tax holiday a benefit for them? The poorest people I know don't own cars!

The poorest people I know don't own cars!

Good point. And the bus will always cost the same.....

Roy Batty, do you think you are an elitist? A Jet Setter? Or are you just a member of the Hereditary Aristocracy, the nobiliy? Have you seen Paris Hilton lately, how is she?

With the terms being thrown about these days, I wonder as to whether anyones knows what they are saying anymore or what they mean?

Aristocracy, oligarchy, and plutocracy are sometimes so confused. All mean some form of rule by a small elite. Aristocracy is rule by a traditional elite, held to be made up of 'the best' people, and is usually hereditary. Oligarchy is literally rule by a few. Plutocracy is rule by the (necessarily few) very rich.

All think they are better then others and would rather have a world were the "common Man" had no say or vote at all. This is what America fought a revolution against in the first place. An imbalance between rich and poor is the oldest and most fatal ailment of all republics.
Plato

No, just when the @!$%# hits the fan, I'm heading north at 100 miles per.

If any of your assumptions of definitions of being "elite" are defined by being able to afford $49 for a US passport, feel free to brand me that way.

However, you did catch me on one thing. I just got off the phone with Paris and she thinks you are a pseudointellectual blowhard too.

That's not what she told me last time we went out... the two faced @!$%#, I'm calling her right now.
I was being sarcastic, nothing to get your dander up about. Just making a point. It's not American, It's not fair. If only one person is denied his rights it is on too many.

In addition, after all was said and done, the time spent, the crappy photo, mailings to the state, getting replies, copies of my birth certificate, and other information, my passport bottom line cost was over $75 dollars.

HAHAHA. Thanks.

I had to get a passport in an emergency back in 2001 (it was before 9/11.) The good news was I had one in three days. The bad news was the expedite process brought the total to over $350.

using passport for ID for voting = Poll tax.

Total agreement with you Dan on this one

(please do not let it go to your head).

:)

Don't get me wrong ... I don't believe anyone should need a passport to vote. However, its a killer ID for a lot of things.

IMHO, I have no idea what you're talking about. FAIL.

1. Seriously? From the article: PDF Note the "cancellations" column.
2. The numbers are good, biased or not. They're taken from the Indiana Election Commission.
3. LOL, what? You read the article?
4. See 2.
5. That's because "canceled" can also mean "replaced." But yes, it's unlikely. That's why this is uproarious news.