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Obama Now Takes The Lead in Superdelegates Too
News Type: Event — Seeded on Fri May 9, 2008 7:15 AM EDT
Article Source: ABC News Blogsadvertisement
For the first time this campaign season, Barack Obama has surpassed Hillary Clinton's support among superdelegates, according to the ABC News delegate estimate.
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{"commentId":1781984,"authorDomain":"freed"}
Their count is more generous than other news sources, but it doesn't include Larsen (D WA) that just pledged to Obama.
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- 8 votes
#1 - Fri May 9, 2008 7:17 AM EDT{"commentId":1782007,"authorDomain":"kokayi"}
Thanks. That some great news.
{"commentId":1782007,"threadId":"261938","contentId":"1478021","authorDomain":"kokayi"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":1782026,"authorDomain":"1stcontact"}
Ahhhh ... finally ...
It's important to let the conservative numbers of the other news organizations stand, until proven otherwise. But, even if the most conservative numbers stand, it can't be denied that Obama is out-pacing Clinton in gathering superdelegates. It's just a matter of time.
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- 9 votes
{"commentId":1784167,"authorDomain":"freed"}
Superdelegate and Congresswoman Mazie Hirono (H) just endorsed Barack Obama about 45 min. ago - the list keeps growing
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":1782036,"authorDomain":"freed"}
I think this is the crack in the dam, once other SDs see this headline, well it's just inevitable, some won't declare out of deference to Clinton, or because they don't want it to look like the SDs decided not the voters, but the damn will break and most of them will flow through to the Obama side.
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- 8 votes
#2 - Fri May 9, 2008 7:51 AM EDT{"commentId":1782639,"authorDomain":"Rixar13"}
Time to finish the dance in a face saving, respectful way which will hopefully unite the party. Thanx for that.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":1782942,"authorDomain":"We-The-People"}
Hillary wants to be forced out, so that she can look like a victim to women followers. She is openly sabotaging his chances. She has been since the 11 straight losses.
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- 4 votes
{"commentId":1782257,"authorDomain":"uncleandy"}
Everyone knows Obama is inevitable. I am just wondering if Obama planned it this way all along to keep the campaign well trained and practiced for the general election. I watched Obama last night on Anderson Cooper, and he kept reminding Wolf Blitzer that "I have not won yet, we still 3 weeks to go" and "Hillary Clinton is a formidable candidate." It would make sense to keep the campaign on the practice court as long as possible in order to get everyone loose and ready for the championship game.
I think the only question now is who will be his running mate?
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- 3 votes
#3 - Fri May 9, 2008 9:09 AM EDT{"commentId":1782492,"authorDomain":"Jivatmanx"}
The reason he talks cautiously like that is because he does not want to alienate HRC's constituency: Old white women, who would (unfairly) perceive any attempt to force her from the race as sexism.
I'm torn on whether he should accept HRC as vice. On one hand I imagine he could attract some of her demographics, but on the other, I'm not sure HRC would accept Vice, or if her constituents would even be satisfied with that. Of course I dream that Ron Paul would be vice, but more realistically, maybe Richardson, or perhaps some sort of dark horse that could bring in more older white women and mexicans.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":1783422,"authorDomain":"freed"}
Richardson would be great, but I don't know if he would help his demographics enough, and unfortunately, that's the way he needs to think about it.
{"commentId":1783422,"threadId":"261938","contentId":"1478021","authorDomain":"freed"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1784458,"authorDomain":"uncleandy"}
Yes, I like Richardson, I think he would be an excellent choice for VP.
{"commentId":1784458,"threadId":"261938","contentId":"1478021","authorDomain":"uncleandy"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":1782746,"authorDomain":"Austinite1"}
But, don't discount Hillary. After all, she leads among white voters with no college degree.
{"commentId":1782746,"threadId":"261938","contentId":"1478021","authorDomain":"Austinite1"}
- 5 votes
#4 - Fri May 9, 2008 11:13 AM EDT{"commentId":1785388,"authorDomain":"kokayi"}
ROTFL!
{"commentId":1785388,"threadId":"261938","contentId":"1478021","authorDomain":"kokayi"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":1785411,"authorDomain":"arcanebliss"}
lol
{"commentId":1785411,"threadId":"261938","contentId":"1478021","authorDomain":"arcanebliss"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":1785795,"authorDomain":"1stcontact"}
Chuckling :)
{"commentId":1785795,"threadId":"261938","contentId":"1478021","authorDomain":"1stcontact"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":1782804,"authorDomain":"lele"}
Why is the ABC count of Clinton's supers so much less than the other ones?
At least the bottom line is that they are very close now, and the argument is no longer going to be with getting superdelegate support. Good thing.
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- 5 votes
#5 - Fri May 9, 2008 11:27 AM EDT{"commentId":1783212,"authorDomain":"JStranahan"}
- Obama:260
- Clinton: 274
- Obama:262
- Clinton: 263
< href="http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/delegates/index.html">AP:
- Obama:266
- Clinton: 282
Or ABC. Take your pick.
A much as I'd like him to be, I don't think Barack is quite there yet.
{"commentId":1783212,"threadId":"261938","contentId":"1478021","authorDomain":"JStranahan"}
- 2 votes
#6 - Fri May 9, 2008 12:53 PM EDT{"commentId":1783258,"authorDomain":"JStranahan"}
Wow Ghost in the machine today.
That should be:
- Obama:266
- Clinton: 272
Or ABC's numbers. Take your pick.
As much as I'd like him to be, I don't think Barack is quite there yet.
{"commentId":1783258,"threadId":"261938","contentId":"1478021","authorDomain":"JStranahan"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1783442,"authorDomain":"freed"}
ABC is including some delegates that have committed, but not publicly, they also updated their numbers earlier as delegates were committing and switching last night / early this morning - 5 in all I think?
{"commentId":1783442,"threadId":"261938","contentId":"1478021","authorDomain":"freed"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1785441,"authorDomain":"arcanebliss"}
Superdelegate Comparison
Politico: Clinton 268.5 Obama 271 Updated May 9
The Times's tally shows Mr. Obama with 266 superdelegates against 263 for Mrs. Clinton
Published: May 10, 2008
The consistency I'm seeing most of though is:
The developments left the former first lady with 272.5 superdelegates, to 271 for Obama, according to the Associated Press tally.
In other news... I like this picture a lot.
{"commentId":1785441,"threadId":"261938","contentId":"1478021","authorDomain":"arcanebliss"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":1785824,"authorDomain":"kokayi"}
In other news... I like this picture a lot.
WOW!
Super kudos for sharing that link, arcanebliss. There is so much incredible symbolism in that photograph. He's coming down the stairs to greet the people. The people below are looking up towards him. The hand of a woman has reached out and he's holding it. The sun is behind the women and fills Obama'a face with a glow. There older people on the left and younger, school aged children on the right. Symbolically he's bridging a generational gap. There's also so much diversity in the picture.
I also heard that Aug 28 is the 45th anniversary of Dr. King's I have a dream speech. It's also the same night the Democratic nominee is scheduled to give his or her acceptance speech.
It would be nice to hear the other insights about the picture of Dr. King's speech. TIA
{"commentId":1785824,"threadId":"261938","contentId":"1478021","authorDomain":"kokayi"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":1786100,"authorDomain":"uncleandy"}
Kokayi, you have opened an interesting door regarding this topic. Consider this, the "I have a Dream" speech is really called the "Bounced Check" speech. However, it is almost never referred to or cited as that.
Consider this statement from Dr. King:
ML King, from 1963:
It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note insofar as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check, a check which has come back marked "insufficient funds."
In the context of this speech, is America finally ready to make good on its promissory note? Will Anglo-white America take a serious interest in African-America? Will Obama be elected on the merits of his prosecution in his campaign to be president, or will history just say, "He won because he is black." There are many fascinating questions about the evolution of civil rights in this country, most of which, has America finally evolved?
{"commentId":1786100,"threadId":"261938","contentId":"1478021","authorDomain":"uncleandy"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1786996,"authorDomain":"freed"}
The other news sources how now fallen in line with ABC, looks like ABC keeps track of delegates better than they moderate debates.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":1783470,"authorDomain":"dviking12"}
I don't mind if Clinton stays for the remainder of the campaign. I just hope that when she loses, she will be able to convince her supporters to vote for Obama. It would be bad news if she tries to sell her support for a shot at vice-presidency or a cabinet position.
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- 3 votes
#7 - Fri May 9, 2008 1:46 PM EDT{"commentId":1784463,"authorDomain":"uncleandy"}
Certainly, that is the master plan.
{"commentId":1784463,"threadId":"261938","contentId":"1478021","authorDomain":"uncleandy"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1785836,"authorDomain":"kokayi"}
It's very unfortunate that the Clintons to me never seem genuine especially when it comes to down to being gracious. When it's all over I think the Clinton's capacity to support Obama if he's the nominee may not produce the results democrats are hoping for. I don't think Bill's reckless tongue waging is going to just suddenly stop. Nor will Wizard Oz be able to give Hillary a real heart.
{"commentId":1785836,"threadId":"261938","contentId":"1478021","authorDomain":"kokayi"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1796383,"authorDomain":"kokayi"}
uncleandy wrote
In the context of this speech, is America finally ready to make good on its promissory note? Will Anglo-white America take a serious interest in African-America? Will Obama be elected on the merits of his prosecution in his campaign to be president, or will history just say, "He won because he is black." There are many fascinating questions about the evolution of civil rights in this country, most of which, has America finally evolved?
I'm shy about making any predictions about what context will develop. I'm expecting Barack to surprise us all. I think everything he's done has lead him to this apex in history. If Barack becomes the democratic nominee and then goes on to win the general election, 08/28/08 will become the day race relations in America changed.
{"commentId":1796383,"threadId":"261938","contentId":"1478021","authorDomain":"kokayi"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1784738,"authorDomain":"arcanebliss"}
It's the eeend of the roooad as we know it. [sings]
{"commentId":1784738,"threadId":"261938","contentId":"1478021","authorDomain":"arcanebliss"}
- 3 votes
#8 - Fri May 9, 2008 7:04 PM EDT{"commentId":1786112,"authorDomain":"uncleandy"}
Frankly, I don't believe it concerns the Obama campaign, they knew full well that all the 3rd rail issues that came up during the campaign, would have come up eventually anyway. Actually, it was never a question of "if" but "when" and to take them on now, in the primary, and get them out in the open, is most likely the better strategy. If McCain and the Republicans attempt to raise them again, it will only make them look like a broken record, have nothing new to offer, and are not actually interested in "Change" which is "the issue," in this election.
{"commentId":1786112,"threadId":"261938","contentId":"1478021","authorDomain":"uncleandy"}
- 3 votes
#9 - Sat May 10, 2008 11:15 AM EDT{"commentId":1798223,"authorDomain":"freed"}
Hope that's true, sometimes tho when people here the same BS often enough they take it as truth
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